15# No More Hiding: Embracing Her Daughter's Autism & Breaking Barriers in the Asian Community with Anu Mahli
In this powerful episode, Anu Mahli Cheema opens up about her remarkable journey of balancing motherhood, wellness, and entrepreneurship, while confronting deep-rooted cultural expectations. Once a successful makeup artist turned educator, Anu is now the co-founder of Arwyn Co.—a mushroom supplement brand inspired by her daughter’s unique needs and radiant spirit.
Anu shares the emotional and, at times, isolating experience of raising twins, including her daughter Arwyn, who has autism. As a South Asian woman, she candidly reflects on the pressure to maintain appearances, the silence surrounding neurodiversity in the community, and how cultural stigmas led her to hide her daughter’s diagnosis for years.
But what began in secrecy transformed into a journey of radical acceptance and advocacy. Anu speaks openly about the moment everything shifted—the decision to no longer conform to outdated stereotypes and instead stand boldly in her truth. She reveals how mindset, fitness, and spirituality became her lifelines, empowering her to rise above guilt and embrace holistic health for her family and herself.
This conversation is a raw and inspiring reminder of the power of resilience, the strength found in vulnerability, and the healing that comes from breaking generational cycles. Anu’s story is a celebration of motherhood, cultural reclamation, and the beauty of building something meaningful from a place of authenticity and love.
Resources and Links:
# The Asian Female Entrepreneur Club
Sharn's website
Connect with her on Instagram - Asian_Female_Entrepreneur - Instagram
Transcript
Online. She normally share her journey of navigating life challenges, including raising a child with different needs, with love, strength, and resilience. So welcome Anu. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I was literally so excited to have you on. Aw. Because we met earlier this year, didn't we? At my event?
You did. And it is so weird because I invited you to attend my event and like I was looking at your profile last year, and I don't think we'd hardly like spoken. But I just had this feeling that, I don't know energetically There was a connection. There was a connection, yeah. And I was like. This. I know lady seems really nice.
I'm gonna invite her to my event. Aw. And you came and it was so, I remember you wearing a really funky, cool hat and it was just such a pleasure to have you there. And obviously I'm just so inspired by everything that you've done. Aw, thank you. Because I've known about you for a very long time. 'cause obviously when I was in the wedding world, I'd heard leads about you.
Aw. So let's just go through. Your backstory because you are a really successful makeup artist.
[:Really enjoyed it. It was amazing like meeting so many new, people in the industry. The brides that I did, it was amazing and. Yeah, I'm just glad that I took them opportunities as a, you know, at a point my dad was very much against it. He was just like, well, do you wanna do makeup for as you get with Asian parents?
Mm-hmm. Do business? And I was just like, no dad, I'll go look. I need to follow my dreams and I need to do this. And I did. And I'm so glad I followed through and made them things happen and. You know, it was like 20 years or so, and then I went into teaching as well. Yeah. And had my own training academy, which was lovely.
And I was teaching at London and Birmingham Leicester. It was just an incredible journey
[: [: [: [:I was like, yeah, I can do, why not? Let's give it a shot. And I used to, you know, make contacts and they used to just call me up and say, can you come and do my bridal? And it just kind of grew from that. Had some business cards done, started handing them out to everyone that I met. And it was crazy 'cause there wasn't many makeup artists out.
At that time at all. And then, yeah, it just kind of grew from there, Sharn. It was, it was nice. It was a, a lovely journey of that.
[: [:It was very humble with it all, and I was grateful for it. Mm. And but I remember the days when I used to go into, a bridal house, a. With bride getting married. And, they were like, oh, Annie mall's here, Annie Mall's here. And I just feel like, oh my God, they're talking about me. And I was just like, whoa.
That's just, like, that was just amazing to hear. But at the, again, the same time I was, you know, it was, it was, I was grateful for the experience that I had. And, it was wonderful. It was met so many lovely, lovely people on along the way.
[:Oh,
[: hink it's probably about, say:Mm-hmm. That's all I've ever done and enjoyed. but I, I guess when, when it comes to family, you've gotta kind of look at it and think, okay, my needs and I need to, you know, help my family for their needs and what they need at this time. Yeah, so it all kind of changed a little bit.
[: [: citing. So, yeah, so that was: [: [:We were like, you know, what's going on? Is there something to worry about? Is this normal? And then I think at that time we, you know, made appointments to see the doctors and went to see the doctors and said, you could be just global development delays. Don't worry, it's all okay. But when you see a child, you know, you've got both kids at the same age and you see them both, and you think there's a difference here.
There's a, there's change. I know you shouldn't compare kids. Mm. But it was just like, you know, he was doing really, really well and there was. A bit of like delays from Arwin and we were like, you know, this doesn't seem right, but we kind of carried on and just said, okay. The doctors have said it's all okay.
Maybe is global, global development delays. Maybe we'll just ride it through and just see, you know, things can change. And then, I'll probably say it was another year or so, and then it was, it was, oh, this is, this is not. You know, nor there was, there was still delays there, and we were like getting worried now.
And at that time, you know, you, you know, as a mother, you just think something's not right here, right?
[: [:And this was, this was not, you know, it was just, it felt so uncomfortable and, we were at a stage thinking, okay, we need to look into this further. We need to see how we can help her because. They are differences. And it was stuff like, there was kind, no eye contact would call her. She wouldn't really respond to it.
She was very kind of disconnected from us. And at that time I just, you know, it was, it was lonely. I was just like, what, what do we do? Mm-hmm. Where can we go from this? so yeah, so it, it kind of really. You know, hit us. And it was my whole kind of world was like upside down at that time. Like, yeah, it was very scary.
So yeah, so that's where we are at the moment. So now, it's. I think it was about the age of four years old. we, again, we went to see a lot of specialists and, doctors. And they, at that time, , there was a diagnosis given at that time because before that they couldn't really diagnose her with anything at that time.
So when she turned to the Asia four, they did diagnose her with, autism spectrum. I'm not sure if you've heard of it.
[: [:Like where do we kind of go from there? Yeah. It was a bit scary.
[: [:Held back for so long and, it's, you know, she's eight years old now. Yeah. By now. I thought, okay, maybe she'll grow out of it. Maybe things will change because we've done so much, Shawn, like we've done so many therapies with her, we've taken to private doctors. Anything that you can think of to help her progress?
Yeah. We've done it and we've given her natural remedies. Everything that you can think of. We've done it and we didn't really wanna go down the medical route. So everything that we've done is kind of through like. natural remedies, and studies that we've read about. Like my husband's amazing at doing research.
Yeah. And he was constantly researching what can we try next? What can we do next? Maybe this will help, that will help and everything. And we have seen changes in her, like there is changes. There's a lot more eye contact with her now. There is, you know, she'll grab our hand and take us to what she wants.
And there's certain like, kind of sounds that she will make where, you know, we know what it is and we've kind of understand her language because at the moment she is pre-verbal.
[: [:I actually haven't heard my daughter's voice. And, and that kind of hits you quite hard and you think, you know, how, how do you get up from this? Mm-hmm. And like, where, where do you go? And. And it, it is, it's, it's been a big challenge, but I know that we'll get through it, one way or another with both.
Both like me and my husband and my son . He's amazing. Aw. He really, really is. And he's so supportive with her and he helps in any way, in every way he can. Is that when we go out and we'll get him a toy or something. He'd be like, where's Arwin? Have you got one for Ari? Oh, like, yes, Chris, we've got one for Arwin as well.
So he is really amazing with her and he is really caring towards her and they've kind of shared that journey together. And he doesn't know any different. Yeah. You know, he has asked questions and, you know, it makes my heart melt when he asks certain questions. It's like, oh, how come Alvin's doing that and I'm not doing this?
And, and you gotta explain to him. But he's so understanding with it all.
[: [:And help her in any way we can.
[: [:A good mom for my kids. I'm not gonna be a good wife. And you know, so you gotta kind of just think, I've gotta sort this out. Gotta to change it. Gotta make some changes because I was really going down a route where I was getting too stressed, couldn't handle it. There was a lot of tears. Mm. you know, I used to, I just remember the time that, you know, even now to this day, like there will still be tears 'cause you're gonna have them hard days.
But what's helped me is to change my morning routine. So me and my husband, we'll get up about half four in the morning. Wow. Really? Oh, I didn't know that. Yes. And we'll, what I would do is, work out, so I'll, I dunno whether you've seen my instrument. Yeah. Video. So I really got into my fitness and that really changed my mind mindset.
And I was just like, look, I need to take care of myself so I can be better. So that really, really helped. And then I start meditating, reading something positive that really, really helped. And just to strengthen our, both of our minds. So my husband would do the same thing as well, and that's what's helped us because.
Now I'm kind of set for the day. So if, if we have any challenges in that day with Arvin or she's upset or anything like that, we're kind of more so ready for it. 'cause your mindset's already in a place, in a good place.
[: [: [: [:So on them days, you ack it in the morning and you think, I need to get up. I need to get up. But it's so hard sometimes. So if I do miss it, I'm like, why didn't I, why didn't I get up? Why didn't I get up? Because it makes such a difference to how I am in the day. And that's really, really helped. And like you have to help yourself so you can help others.
[: [:I'm just gonna set up at home. So I've brought, so me and my husband both like brought some, equipment, you know, your dumbbells and then we've got the cable machine. Yeah. so that's really, really helped. So in the morning I'll do a good kind of hour at my workout and you know, I'll do a different part of my body each day, whatever it is.
So normally on. a Monday I'll do like leg day and Tuesday will be like upper body. and then kind of just rotate it. But that does really, really help and I. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm excited to do it. Like, normally like, you know, you can't be bothered to do a workout, but I actually look forward to it because it's me time.
Yeah. It's kind of getting my emotions together, my feelings, and to have a little think and be by myself and meditate before I start the day. And it's really, really helped.
[: [:because I used to listen to stuff and I couldn't get into it, Sharn, I was like, it was distracting me. It is weird. Mm. It was, it was like, I was just like, I can't actually meditate to this. So I'll either like, do breath work in silent. Or I will visualize, and normally what I will visualize is ar talking.
Mm-hmm. And, I'll visualize as being on the beach, 'cause I love being on the beach. Mm-hmm. And so, so do like Christian Arwin. I love being on the beach. And now I've got my husband into it as well. So I say, let's move to a beach and let's just stay there. But, yeah, so I'll visualize that her talking to us or her talking to my mom or anything like that, just to kind of have that visualization where it makes you feel better and uplift and like anything is possible.
And I always believe and think that, you know, there's, there's so many scientific studies that come out for, you know, the autism spectrum where you can help your kids. And I really believe that. You know, we will hear her voice and she will talk. We just gotta keep going at it and fighting it and helping her in every way we can.
[:Oh wow. And like they were just really like achi, like excelling in what they were doing. Yeah. And I think it's this narrative that we've also been fed as a society that, yeah. Especially like, 'cause I've got a brother who's got learning difficulties. And I think we've been fed this narrative that they, I think back in the day, people just kind of like gave up.
Like I've never, it's like that narrative was spun. Like, oh, you know? You know, like he's just like that. Yeah. But now I think it's so inspiring to see people like you who are like challenging the narrative Yeah. And challenging the norm, and actually like taking things into your own hands. Mm-hmm. And doing, like you said, like.
Being positive, having a positive mindset. She's already Come on like leaps and bounds you were saying. Yeah. Yeah.
[:Mm. And I think you have to do it. you know, and it's a choice. You know, you have to make that choice for yourself. You can obviously choose to think, okay, I can't be bothered with this. I'm not gonna do anything. But if you choose to like just do it and just start there a time, it makes such a big difference.
And you know, at the beginning it was hard for me 'cause I was like, is this even gonna help me? Is this even gonna work? And. And it did. It has. And you know, I'm, that's why I wouldn't stop it. Like I know there's been days where you are ill or whatever it is, but even then, even this morning I felt a little bit rough, but I was like, no, I'm gonna work out.
And it actually made me feel better. And so I think you have to kind of, I. You know, do it for yourself and do it for the people that you love around you and stuff.
[: [:And again, like we'll talk about something that we're grateful for in that day. So whether it's like, are we doing something or you know, Chris doing something, we'll talk about that, what we've kind of achieved on that same day and anything like that. Just so we're going to sleep on a positive note. And, you know, my husband's really, he is the one that always asks me in, in the E like, when we were in bed, he'd be like, okay, so what five things that you're grateful for today?
And, without like anything, he always remembers to ask me and I'm like, okay, I be, you never forget to ask. Do. Yeah. But yeah, so I'll give him like five things that we're grateful for and then he'll give me five. And it's nice because, you know, it's nice to end that day on a positive note rather than thinking, oh, this happened or that happened and this didn't go right.
But, you know, I'm glad that we're both in that same boat and if it, you know, like he, he is my strength. Like, I'm so grateful for him to have him because on the, I wouldn't want this journey in any other way without him because he's just been amazing and he's such a hands-on dad. With it all. So I'm grateful that we've got each other and we're on this journey together.
[: [:I
[: [: [: [:So long to come out and before, before this, I wanna be honest and say we, we were in hiding Sharn. Mm. We didn't wanna go out. We didn't want RN to get judged. Yeah. We didn't want her to feel, you know, that she's any different, different, anything like that. So that was really, really difficult. You know, we didn't wanna go to parties with RN and.
You know, I'm not saying that's the right thing to do, but it was just, I didn't want anyone to question anything. And I think I found it really difficult. I think we both did and we were both last and I think we really kind of took a backseat from friends and family.
[: [:I didn't know what to say. I didn't know how they would react. But you know, now you felt like the right time to be like doing know something. There's other people out there that feel the same as I do, but I think it's time to kind of open up and talk about these feelings. And I think, you know, the vulnerability open, if you open up about that, it helps others.
Mm-hmm.
[: [:Or why isn't she's sitting down and why is she getting upset? So, you know, we really kind of took a backseat and didn't, you know, go anywhere for a very long time and closed ourselves off from friends and family. Apart from the immediate family, like my parents and stuff, we really closed off.
[: [:It. I, I, I just couldn't do it, Sharn. It was just so lost in it. I think we all both lost in it. It was, it was just difficult at that time.
[:Like even with my brother, I mean. You know, he's got learning difficulties, but he's, you know, fully able, fully bodied. Like, you know, if you saw him, you wouldn't, you wouldn't think anything. It's only when you start, he starts to speak. You realize, you know, he's got learning differences, but it's just like, even with him, like it's been, it's always been like difficult to navigate because it's like, like, what?
You know, remember we were younger, like what, what other people think? Yeah. Yeah. But now it's got to a point where like. He's like, you know, he's 30, so he was 37 last week. Oh wow. Okay. and it's gotten to a point now where I'm like. Because there was always this thing like, oh, he's not like masculine enough like my other cousins.
Oh, okay. And he's not like going out and like, you know, he's not like the other boys, basically in the family. Yeah. But now it's just kind of like if we saw him last weekend for his birthday and he was just like, so the moon that me and dad went and he was just so happy and just so grateful. And then he went for like a drink with My husband. My husband, like, absolutely loves him. Aw. and they get on really well. And my brother like completely adores my husband as well. Yeah. And like, I've kind of been kicked outta this relationship now. but then you just think, oh my God. Like, you know, we get so much love from him so much. Yeah.
Like, it's so pure. Yeah. Whereas like. You then compare him to like other kind of extended family members and you're saying, oh my God, like my brother. He's my brother and he's always gonna be there for us. Yeah. Like, he's so like loyal, he's always got our back. And you just think like, it doesn't matter, like doesn?
No it doesn't.
[: [:It can be, it can be really difficult.
[: [: [: [: [:Are we, so we're like, okay, let's give it a shot. Let's give it a go. Because she was, she was really constipated, you know, it was quite bad where she couldn't do any bowel movements, and we were getting worried 'cause she was eating. We were like, where, where's it all going? Yeah. Because she, and she was struggling and it was hard seeing her in that place because.
She'd be upset about it or, and she can't express her feelings like everyone now. Yeah. She can't come and say, mommy, my tummy hurts or, so it was really difficult seeing her in that position. So we were like, okay, there's been studies on mushrooms, but it can help constipation, it can help her calm down.
Let's maybe give it a shot. Let's see. So then we started to give her mushroom supplements. And then in the next couple of days she had bowel movements. We were like, oh my God, this works. So that was amazing. And then we started doing a bit more research into it, and then obviously with. Everything that's going on with, in our family, it was a, it was quite stressful at, you know, at times.
So it said like, emotions can help with stress, it can kind of calm your anxiety down, anything like that. So we were like, okay, maybe we can start taking it as well. Maybe it'll help us. And then, but my energy used to be quite low, so I was, okay, let me try quadriceps. That might help. My husband starts taking lines, man, because he was in a place where he wasn't focused 'cause.
When you are with Arwin, like it's all eyes on Arwin because she's very energetic. Yeah. Like she is, you know, she, if she was here, she'd be climbing everywhere. Sharn, like, she'll try and climb anything that she can see. So you always got one eye on her. And then, so it's really hard to focus on your work or whatever you are doing because you've gotta think, okay, what's are we doing?
So he is, he is kind of, his focus and memory was not. Like the best, how it used me. He kind of noticed it, noticed it more. So he goes, okay, maybe I'll take linesman and see how it can help him. So we all start taking his supplements and we were like, okay, this has actually made a difference. I felt better in my energy levels and I was like, okay, this is actually helping me, it's helping our room.
And then, okay, let's like dive into this a little bit more. And then my husband started doing more research and he was like, let's, let's do this. Let's make some supplements. For Arwin. Let's name, vin's name. Let's do under her her name and stuff. And let's see. And then it got launched. Yay. Yay. And yay.
So it is, it's amazing because it means something to us. It's helped us as a family. And you know, this is just the beginning of it. So. I'm just really excited that we've got something in place and it means a lot to us. And there's been so much research out there and scientific research that has helped kids like, and you know, in just for general health and stuff.
So I was just like, you know, let's do it and we've done it and you know, we were like, shall we, shouldn't we? But I think let's go for it. Why not? And my husband was very much into his mushrooms anyway. So we're like, yeah, let's go for it.
[:I have heard bits and stuff. Yeah. I would do it. Obviously it's not, they wouldn't do it in this country. You can't actually do it here. But I, I took, Astro Gander at the early end part of Yeah. But that was like, I've never take, I don't think I've taken mushrooms, but obviously I will be. Now you can.
Yeah, and I think, and I think the other thing is like, I think in the Western world, especially. They just try and push like the kind of pharmaceutical companies onto us. I know definitely in America, like big pharma. Yeah. Yeah. And almost they don't want us to know. No, they don't. That these hubs are out there.
No, because I've been on like a massive health journey. I've had so many, I'll say this one, another podcast I've seen, but I had so many issues. My health, my weight bloat, I mean literally everything. Yeah, you could think of, But actually what's really helped me is actually like supplements. Wow. Like herbal supplements?
Yeah. Yeah. Whether it's like turmeric, whether it's the ashwagandha, whether it's, you know, so many things I've been able to eliminate because of just herbal, herbal, like garlic supplements or meme or name or all of those things. And I think so many people don't know about this world.
[:And I think that's one thing I've gotta be really thankful. To our room for, 'cause she actually has been our teacher in all this. Mm-hmm. If it wasn't for her, we wouldn't have done this much research on herbal medicines and homeopathic remedies, anything natural. We've done it because of her, because we didn't wanna go down the medical route of anything.
[: [:And, it's, it's amazing because, you know, I didn't know any of this stuff before and it's only because of her. And same with my husband. He's done so much research because of our win that's led us to this and. It is amazing. So I am grateful for that. And I just hope that things just work out how we measure and how we visualize, I guess for her.
I,
[: [:But we've had them days. We like, why? Why us? Like why am I going through this? Like, come on, God, help me. Please. But I guess, you know, they always say that. God only gives you what you can handle.
[: [:And, you know, let's, let's see where this journey takes
[: [: [: [:Because
[:So you're doing that, you're waking up at four 30, then you've got obviously young kids, like Yeah. You know, you've got, oh, when the, how do you do it? I don't know,
[:And I think it's just having a routine. So, you know, the night before we'll make a plan and say, okay, this is what we're gonna do, this is how we're gonna cover it, or whatever it's gonna be. And I kind of handle the kids. Kids or he'll have he's turn or whatever it is, and we make sure that we manage it throughout the day where we balance it all out.
And I think, you know, I'm just grateful that we've got each other to do that. I. Because sometimes it's just the woman that does everything. Oh, yeah. And she's running around. But I'm glad that he's very much hands on where we can split our tasks and help each other out through, through that day. And he also works from home.
[: [:And did you use to, it
[: [:I used to get up about, say five o'clock. Okay. Five 30. Okay. Yeah. And then we've kind of started to do it about four 30 now. And I think it just makes a big difference 'cause you've got more time because I like to make sure that it's all quiet in the morning. I've got that time to just to recoup and you know, have a nice morning ritual that I normally do and it's, it's great.
And I just think. I couldn't go back to a normal time. I do, I gotta tell a lie though, actually on a, on a Saturday, that's my day off.
[: [:So that day I'll just say, look, this is my day just to like chill in the morning. But that's the only day. I'll have a day off. Sunday. I'll go back into it and then start again. So six days of the week, I am waking up early and then that one day I'm like, okay, this is my day. I've just chilling. And it's nice because.
You know, on the Friday we'll sleep late, we'll watch a movie or something and chill, have some popcorn, and then have a late night and then wake up late. And it's nice 'cause it's just like a, a routine that we've got now.
[: [:We can chill out. Don't have to get up before 30. I have to get up at four 30. I give myself a day off. But yeah, it is all about just, I think. Me and him not just working as a team. And I think honestly, that really, really helps us. And it's, it's nice that I've got him and you know, we, like I, I was saying to you, we do have our off days, and when we do have our off days, we'll make sure that we'll have a little in the evening, like we'll have a little, a dance off with the kids and me and him.
So that will kind of get us back into that mindset of being happy again. Because sometimes like. When we've got a whole win, she can be upset. And then it's changing her mindset as well, as well as ours. So, yeah. So then we've kind of worked together as a team and just help each other out. I love that so much.
Yeah. Because,
[:Yeah. Like, but I'm so glad that it's changing now. It's, it's, and I think us Asian women we're just literally like, no, we're not. We're not doing taking this anymore.
[:It is. You know, it is kind of sometimes more of a 50 50 these days. Yeah. Which is nice. 'cause my, my mom tells me so many stories and it's so, mom used to like do all this stuff and like used to help you and she was not myself,
[:And she was literally like, didn't you make like to have breakfast? I was like, no. And I'm like, I'm really sorry. I didn't. And she was like, like, which basically means you should be making it for him. She goes, you should be getting up early, making him food. I'm like, literally, this is like one of the weeks where it was like chaos that week.
Yeah. And I was like, I'm really sorry mom. Times have changed. Yeah. And she goes like. Okay. Staff self-sufficient. Like normally we do have like breakfast together. Yeah. Or we will make him something. But you know, a lot of the times we like got on a slight different time schedule. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like.
You know, 'cause we haven't got kids yet, so I was like, it's fine. But my mom was like, no, you shouldn't done it. Make it b no can a breakfast in the morning. Actually, I really, oh my god. Yeah, he does now. That's amazing. My husband's not at that stage yet. No. He can make like bald eggs. That's why.
[:Ours is normally yogurt and fruit and granola or some nuts and stuff. Oh, nice. So then, yeah, he'll get that ready in the morning for, for us. And then I'm normally upstairs at that time getting Chris ready for school, getting our room ready. and she's actually getting homeschooled, so. Chris's going to school and vin's with us at home.
Yeah. but yeah, then we'll have breakfast together. But yeah, it's, it's nice that we can just sit down for a few minutes in the morning and have breakfast and then we're rushing off again. But, it's, it's nice that we've got that and then vin's with us at home in the day. and now we've just got a tutor for her, which.
Makes her life a little bit easier. Yeah. Yeah. And hopefully one day she'll go to school with Chris. Yeah, yeah. We'll see. But, she is, getting, you know, she's got a nice tutor at the moment, so we'll see how it goes and stuff. But, Yeah. I just, I couldn't, I just couldn't imagine her at school at this time.
But
[: [: [: [:You know, venture out and contact, you know. Businesses, people that are interested in mushrooms. Yeah. Like yourself. Yeah. I'm definitely,
[: [:Have been a few people that have reached out other families and stuff, so, you know, they're, they're interested. So I'm just grateful that we can do this and share it with so many other people and just build it up and see where it takes us and, and all because of our, so I'm grateful. So I know it's a complete different journey from my makeup makeup, but I'm grateful for it.
And it's just a whole new chapter for us.
[: [: [: [:So I really had to kind of like say, okay, let me slow things down with the makeup side of things and let me put my, you know, focus on my kids and, give them what they need. Because obviously they both had different needs. Chris needed me in different ways, and already we needed me in other ways. So I was just like, I don't wanna have any regrets.
It's gonna have to just slow down and then slowly but surely then it completely came away from the makeup and, and it felt right. And I dunno whether I told you this before, but do you know when I came to your event? Yeah. Was that, was it this year? February? Yeah. So when I came in February and I was there, it.
In the, there was something then I, I just felt something then that was like, I need things to change in a different. Way, and I should, I'm not supposed to be doing makeup anymore. There was just something that was saying that to me
[: [:And there was this emotion and I felt this. And I just think there's something new for us to do and what is it? I don't know. And it was just a lot of things in my mind were just opening up at that time. So I'm grateful for that. I'm so glad you came too. Yeah. So it was amazing. And you know, even on that day, like, I forgot her name now, but in the tapping that you Oh yeah.
Mita, yeah. So when I was doing the tapping and everything, I just, so floods of tears. I was like, oh my God, what's going on? Yeah. But it, it was just something and I knew, you know, I'm so grateful that you invited me because a lot of things from there did change as well. And it was just be giving me a bit of a push.
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[: [: [:my Instagram is. Malle, which is my maiden name. Yeah. I saw Annu Cheema on that and I was like, oh yeah. So, but yeah, so it's Nuco Malle. so if you wanna reach out, then please do, because I'm happy to connect with anyone that's searching because I just know that. Talking to another mom in a similar situation just really lightens the heart.
So if anybody wants to connect, please do, and I'm happy to help in whatever way I can.
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